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		<title>By: PK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think films can affect us regardless of issues, because well-made films have that emotional resonance, even when there are some major issues going on. (I wrote a term paper on Leni Riefenstahl as an undergrad, went into some of this then, too.) I find that I can sometimes ignore or set aside some massively fucked up stuff towards women or LGBTQ people in films and books, things that directly affect me, if it&#039;s presented in the right way, as normal in context.

It&#039;s something hard to grasp and deal with. Definitely won&#039;t pretend I&#039;ve resolved my issues with that yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think films can affect us regardless of issues, because well-made films have that emotional resonance, even when there are some major issues going on. (I wrote a term paper on Leni Riefenstahl as an undergrad, went into some of this then, too.) I find that I can sometimes ignore or set aside some massively fucked up stuff towards women or LGBTQ people in films and books, things that directly affect me, if it&#8217;s presented in the right way, as normal in context.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s something hard to grasp and deal with. Definitely won&#8217;t pretend I&#8217;ve resolved my issues with that yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Griffith&#8217;s stereotyped tolerance.&#160;&#124;&#160;Like Neon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griffith&#8217;s stereotyped tolerance.&#160;&#124;&#160;Like Neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in love with an abused London waif. I&#8217;d never seen the film before, and while I stand by my rating and review as posted yesterday to Filmikaze, I&#8217;ve also had to complete a critical analysis of the depiction of race, gender and class [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in love with an abused London waif. I&#8217;d never seen the film before, and while I stand by my rating and review as posted yesterday to Filmikaze, I&#8217;ve also had to complete a critical analysis of the depiction of race, gender and class [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, as an aside, I think it probably bears mentioning that I fully expect my attitudes and how I approach the film to change over time, since right now I&#039;m essentially just a layman hashing this stuff out as best I can.  I think I&#039;ve got more critical viewing skills than the average person, but I&#039;m nowhere near where I want to be, which naturally is why I&#039;m in school for it.  Right now I&#039;m struggling a bit with how genuinely affected I was with the film despite the stereotypes and sort of…sidestepping of the racial issue, and I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s to do with my own privilege or if I&#039;m simply making allowances due to the time period.  It&#039;s all really interesting, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, as an aside, I think it probably bears mentioning that I fully expect my attitudes and how I approach the film to change over time, since right now I&#8217;m essentially just a layman hashing this stuff out as best I can.  I think I&#8217;ve got more critical viewing skills than the average person, but I&#8217;m nowhere near where I want to be, which naturally is why I&#8217;m in school for it.  Right now I&#8217;m struggling a bit with how genuinely affected I was with the film despite the stereotypes and sort of…sidestepping of the racial issue, and I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s to do with my own privilege or if I&#8217;m simply making allowances due to the time period.  It&#8217;s all really interesting, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://filmikaze.com/index.php/2010/01/broken-blossoms-1919/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, absolutely; Griffith totally made BB because of all the criticism he was getting regarding his depiction of non-whites, and that&#039;s obviously important in historical context, but when I sat down to write this, I decided I needed to focus on the merit of the film as its own entity.  Otherwise I would have rambled on for ages about depictions of the Other, character archetypes and the patriarchy, and it &lt;em&gt;occurred&lt;/em&gt; to me, but that&#039;s really not what this blog is about.  I&#039;m considering posting some sort of meta to Like Neon as a companion piece.  I&#039;ve been pondering this review since I wrote it, about whether I ought to have gone into greater detail regarding the ideologies of the time, but I think Roger Ebert made a good, concise point in his own review of the film:
&lt;blockquote&gt;If the attitudes about race in &quot;Broken Blossoms&quot; are more well-meaning and positive than in &quot;Birth of a Nation,&quot; they are nevertheless painfully dated for today&#039;s eyes. But of course they are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And that&#039;s essentially how I approached it.  I have to assume, or at least hope, that anybody reading this understands it&#039;s a film to be viewed as a product of its time.

I read that post about Short Circuit awhile back, and you&#039;re right, it&#039;s appalling.  Ultimately, that&#039;s what I took away from BB most: the fact that we&#039;re so fucking slow to let go of racial stereotypes, cultural appropriation and general racial fuckery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, absolutely; Griffith totally made BB because of all the criticism he was getting regarding his depiction of non-whites, and that&#8217;s obviously important in historical context, but when I sat down to write this, I decided I needed to focus on the merit of the film as its own entity.  Otherwise I would have rambled on for ages about depictions of the Other, character archetypes and the patriarchy, and it <em>occurred</em> to me, but that&#8217;s really not what this blog is about.  I&#8217;m considering posting some sort of meta to Like Neon as a companion piece.  I&#8217;ve been pondering this review since I wrote it, about whether I ought to have gone into greater detail regarding the ideologies of the time, but I think Roger Ebert made a good, concise point in his own review of the film:</p>
<blockquote><p>If the attitudes about race in &#8220;Broken Blossoms&#8221; are more well-meaning and positive than in &#8220;Birth of a Nation,&#8221; they are nevertheless painfully dated for today&#8217;s eyes. But of course they are.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s essentially how I approached it.  I have to assume, or at least hope, that anybody reading this understands it&#8217;s a film to be viewed as a product of its time.</p>
<p>I read that post about Short Circuit awhile back, and you&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s appalling.  Ultimately, that&#8217;s what I took away from BB most: the fact that we&#8217;re so fucking slow to let go of racial stereotypes, cultural appropriation and general racial fuckery.</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also had to watch this for a class (Asian Americans in Film and Video) and found it fairly remarkable for the period in its artistry, though certainly problematic in more ways than one. DW Griffith was a scary man, but he was a ridiculously effective and talented filmmaker, and he was in fact making an intentionally sympathetic piece.

And as you noted, the portrayal of POC hasn&#039;t gone very far--not to mention the portrayal of Asian men and the concept of yellowface.  While it&#039;s not the only recent example, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=554&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tiger Beatdown post on Short Circuit&lt;/a&gt; still just blows my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also had to watch this for a class (Asian Americans in Film and Video) and found it fairly remarkable for the period in its artistry, though certainly problematic in more ways than one. DW Griffith was a scary man, but he was a ridiculously effective and talented filmmaker, and he was in fact making an intentionally sympathetic piece.</p>
<p>And as you noted, the portrayal of POC hasn&#8217;t gone very far&#8211;not to mention the portrayal of Asian men and the concept of yellowface.  While it&#8217;s not the only recent example, the <a href="http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=554" rel="nofollow">Tiger Beatdown post on Short Circuit</a> still just blows my mind.</p>
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